A Twitter Conversation with Larry Doherty, owner of Larry’s Comics in Lowell, MA
26 Comments | Posted: December 13th, 2009 | Filed under: Meta, Thinking about Comics Marketing | Tags: larry doherty, larry's comics, lawrence dohertySo, a local comics show and indie-friendy crafts festival was held by my local comics shop this weekend. Also attending this event was Larry Doherty and some of the employees from Larry’s Comics, based in Lowell Massachusetts. Larry has been the subject of internet controversy recently, and I actually made several posts about his email newsletter without mentioning the business name. Larry went around offering Drake’s snack cakes to people and it was a nice gesture that I didn’t particularly want to take advantage of because I don’t actually like them and I wasn’t hungry at the time. I was checking messages on my phone when he came around and I shook my head and mouthed “No” at him.
His response? To inform me that I’d obviously “had my share of donuts” before, then lifting up his shirt to expose his stomach and chest to me and Ming, whom I was sharing a table with. I was baffled at his actions and had other people at the table, so I let Larry walk off and continue his deliveries. After Ming and I had dinner, I came home and made a comment about the incident on twitter. What follows are my tweets from tonight, along with his comments back, which I’ve put in red for your convenience.
So, @larryscomics insulted me then showed me and @mingdoyle his bare chest and stomach. That was something.
about 8 hours ago from web
(I refused a Drake’s snack cake; he said “C’mon, you’ve had your share of donuts before!” and then said “ME TOO!” and flashed us.)
about 8 hours ago from web
(Yes, @larryscomics, I am fat. You’re a shithead. I win.)
about 8 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin Hey Kevin. Your not much of a “personality” in person BUT your a powerhouse at home on the Internet. Hope you had fun today
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
@BeaucoupKevin typical. At the show Kevin was a gentleman. At home he has nasty musings to share. Wanted that Twinkie didn’t ya big boy??
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
Really, @LarrysComics? You interrupt me and insult me when I’m checking my messages and I’m supposed to be a personality for you?
about 6 hours ago from web
And, @LarrysComics? Maybe I reserve my personality for people who don’t represent every worst aspect of comics-fan-as-retailer.
about 6 hours ago from web
.@LarrysComics Larry, I was polite because there were other people there. Unlike you, I have consideration for third parties.
about 6 hours ago from web
And yeah, @larryscomics, I’m a “big boy.” At least people weren’t asking which table was mine so they could avoid it.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin I think you were pissed because like most shows I attend I was surrounded by family and friends including the promoters
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
@BeaucoupKevin your from new England chump. You know damn well how my shop ranks, and what it stands for. Ask YOUR retailer what they think
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin.
.@LarrysComics Really. You really do have the most remarkable powers of self-delusion. If you were doing so well, why’d you leave at 3:30?
about 6 hours ago from web
.@LarrysComics I’m not going to use other people as a reference point. I simply said what you did and how you acted. You insulted me.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin sold my stock to Patrick Jamal. Then went to Arlington and bought a warehouse. Confirm THAT with any of the 3 promoters
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
@BeaucoupKevin Kevin is pissed because I was handing out snacks to small press like I have done for 20 years!? I AM a douchebag
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics Good for your business. You still insulted me and then flashed me and the woman I shared a table with.
about 6 hours ago from web
I don’t know why @LarrysComics keeps thinking I need to ask my friends how well his business was doing at the show.
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I don’t know why @LarrysComics thinks I care about how well his business is performing. His business has nothing to do with his actions. about 6 hours ago from web
If .@LarrysComics thinks I’m pissed because he was handing out free food and NOT because of how he acted when I refused, boy, I don’t know.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin Kevin. YOU commented on my early departure. I told you WHY. You know damn well you were not offedded by me offering you food
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics Wait, you just said this: http://is.gd/5loDX and then you said I wasn’t insulted by that? What?
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin your just playing up the fact that you met fucking cretin Larry ,bane of the comic book industry.
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
Seriously, @LarrysComics, best of luck with your business. I’ll just be sure to make sure that people know how you acted.
about 6 hours ago from web
No, @LarrysComics, I didn’t MEET you. You walked up, offered food, I refused, you insulted, flashed your chest and stomach, and left.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin I held a box of drakes cakes. You politely pointed to your fat gut to decline. I lifted my shirt showing my gut. All laughed.
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics You’re not telling the truth, Larry. I did not point at my stomach. I shook my head and went back to my messages.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin best of luck with your artwork. I’ll be shure to let people know how you acted
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics Be sure to tell people that I refused a snack cake. Go on and do that.
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin whatever Kevin. You are simply making something out if nothing to draw attention to yourself. Everyone had fun today but you
about 5 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
“Whatever?” You know @LarrysComics, I had a great time today except for our interaction, and I didn’t have to insult anyone!
about 6 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin look in the mirror Kevin. Do you think anyone on the planet will think YOU turned down a fucking Twinkie? That’s a stretch
about 5 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics Again with saying that I’m fat. Yes, Larry. We know. I turned down a snack cake from you because I don’t like them or you.
about 5 hours ago from web
@BeaucoupKevin I thought you seemed like a nice guy in person Kevin. Kinda a nasty fellow on the Internet though aintcha??
about 5 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin
.@LarrysComics You insult me repeatedly when I say what happened and I’M nasty? OK.
about 5 hours ago from web
Some comments:
- I’m a big guy. I’m fat. I know that. People that have met me know this. It’s something everyone’s accepted.
- I am a guy who writes things, not an artist. Some people have paid me to write things. A significant portion of my day job concerns writing things.
- I was ruder than I should have been with the “shithead” comment. Poor form, but honestly, the way he acted was beyond rude for someone whom I’d never met before.
- Larry’s Twitter feed shows how he acted to other people when called on his behavior. Yes, many of them were less-than-polite, following my bad example.
Why make this post? Well, I think it’s a way to show people who might do business with Larry’s Comics, (whether it be at a comics show or when visiting their business at 66 Lakeview Avenue in Lowell, MA) how he treated someone who refused to eat a fifty-cent snack cake. You can also do the same with my own behavior and decide you don’t want to read any of the comics I write.
Edited To Add:
Someone sent me screenshots (albeit tiny-ish ones) of Larry’s half of the conversation, just in case it gets deleted.

Man, I didn’t think my opinion of a comic shop owner I’ll probably never meet could slip further, and yet…
This is also good for any potential people who might do business with Larry to know that he doesn’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re.”
Okay look. Everyone knows fatties have a code of conduct that requires you to uncontrollable desires grab at free snacks when offered. I thought everyone knew this.
It’s part of the jolly code or something. Also upsetting is that you didn’t go all “tex avery” with the eyes when you saw the cake food.
Shame on you, Kevin.
I say this: I met @BeaucoupKevin at NYCC a year or two ago, and he was an outstanding fellow. I would probably walk away from meeting @LarrysComics
And he returns with: @Zakkajj he was a delight in person today as well Zack. It’s when he got home, locked his door. Chubby grew balls
I’m rather glad I haven’t encountered any shop owners in my area that are as big a jerk as Larry has come off over the past 24 hours. It might actually be interesting to keep an eye on his business from this point.
Larry made it pretty clear that Kevin made a mistake when he opted not to jump the table and shove that snack cake where the sun don’t shine. I hope Kevin learned his lesson. Next time, rather than expressing annoyance via twitter, he needs to go ahead and lash out violently when insulted.
Yeah. Between Ragnell’s encounter with him, and your run-in, this guy comes off as a real peach.
Unlike MY comic book store owner, who is a sweetheart.
I’ve shared many meals with Kevin. And I’ve spent many hours with him, both reading his work over the internet, and in person. I just want to point out that I have never seen him act like a jerk when food was offered. And I have actually found him to be much more of a personality in real life than over the net. I don’t really feel like Kevin needs much of a defense, but I just wanted to add my personal experiences to the conversation.
I was reminded of a time years ago when some then-friends of mine dangled a piece of fudge on a fishing line in front of me, (a balcony over a comic store entrance was involved) and then were all pretty offended when I didn’t instantly grab for it. (Mouth first, I presume) Because that would have been high-larious, don’tcha know.
Larry puzzles me. I’ve encountered his type in business, too, and they’re just as baffling there as well.
One time I offered Kevin a Ding Dong. He gutshot me and left me for dead.
I cracked a joke about Larry contacting his congressman and hauling Kevin to Internet Court–for those of you who don’t know, after Ragnell, who is serving in the Armed Forces overseas, called him an idiot, he threatened to sue her for libel and call his congressman to have her punished–and he responded with some sycophantic nonsense, so I told him to fuck off.
Then he threatened to “fill the ear” of Scott Wegener about me next time he sees him.
“@BeaucoupKevin your from new England chump. You know damn well how my shop ranks, and what it stands for. Ask YOUR retailer what they think
about 6 hours ago from Echofon in reply to BeaucoupKevin.”
I asked my retailer what he thought. He shook his head and laughed.
He thinks Larry is a laughingstock among retailers nationwide. He’s considered to be something of an idiot savant of comics retailers – light on the savant, heavy on the idiot. He thinks it’s amazing that he’s still in business.
Perhaps Larry may want to consider another focus group to survey…
How is this guy still in business? He’s immature, obviously insecure and apparently completely unaware of the kind of impression he makes.
Kudos for keeping your end of the conversation on the high road, Kevin!
Holy cow…this guy sounds like a complete and total douchebag.
Is it just me, or does this dude sound like the real-life version of Comic Book Guy? I mean, yeah, on some level we’re all Comic Book Guy, but this guy is really Comic Book Guy, you know?
At first I thought if maybe everyone just ignored the guy, he’d go away, but the more I read, the more I’m convinced he’d just assume he won and then get even more obnoxious somehow.
So right. Smart, clever, grammatically correct public humiliation it is then. As you were, people.
From the sound of it, Doherty wants to become the comics world’s go-to guy for fuckneckery.
I wonder how long it’ll be before he gets arrested for something. His kind always seems to be pulling some illegal scheme under the table…
“for those of you who don’t know, after Ragnell, who is serving in the Armed Forces overseas, called him an idiot, he threatened to sue her for libel and call his congressman to have her punished”
Sounds like Larry is unaware that truth is a defense in libel cases.
“Never argue with a fool; onlookers may lose the ability to tell the difference.” – Mark Twain
I had a really long and involved post, but frankly I’m still baffled by the whole thing and God only knows what the person Kevin was with was thinking (aside from wtf is going on, of course). Kudos to you for dealing with a really bizarre and unnecessary “event” the way you did.
All I can say is I’m 110% convinced whose recollection I believe, and it’s not the comic store guy with the surreal line in WORST. MARKETING. EVER.
Yeah, I had a minor confrontation with him on Bleeding Cool recently. He just plain doesn’t understand the concept of “representing your business” and “acting professionally”.
I’ve talked to my Boston-based LCS guy about Larry, and he just said “You know, he’s not that bad in person.” Guess I’ll need to point him in your direction.
I don’t really know this Larry or his stores. Or the stories that have came out recently. So all I can judge by this is the insanity involving a snack cake.
In all its doubtful I’ll ever be in his stores . But I’m shaking my head puzzled why this SNACKGATE situation happened.
I’m sorry to hear that you were faced with such rude behavior and then *this*. I personally wasn’t put-off by your response, for the most part you were fairly level! Moreover by including the “shithead” comment and then acknowledging that this was bad form I respect you even more now. It takes a lot to step back and check yourself in situations like these. Rock on Kevin, and brush your shoulder off.
A couple of comments:
1. The whole exchange reads like an Abbott and Costello routine gone horribly wrong.
2. Not that it matters, but I knew of you way before I even heard of him. I’d image the same goes as well for a lot of people. So, if anybody is getting fame from this little encounter, it’s him.
3. The more I hear about the guy, the less I ever want to every come near his store.
Satan knows nobody asked, but you used 21 tweets VS. 13 to “win” this comic-snack-Fatfest-royale. Comedy.
Next time take a neutral/Swiss like stance from Homer J. Simpson’s Brain: “Keep looking shocked, and move slowly towards/(away) from the cake.”
Why make this post? Well, I think it’s one part I agree with Michael’s Mark Twain reply and one part life’s too short etc.
But one part to vote for further escalation. This shit is 100%, uncut, pure grade AA, GOLD to read
I wasn’t on Twitter when you posted all those comments, but I wish I had been so I could have chimed in.
I was at my table, just a few down from you, and he offered me some snack cakes too. Ding Dongs maybe? I didn’t want them, whatever they were. I said “No, thanks.”, but he kept prodding me, saying “C’mon man, I know you want it!” until I said “NO!” forcefully.
He didn’t outright call me “fat boy”, but it was certainly implied.
Overall, nice intent but poorly executed.
Larry is such a douche bag….he recently had a sale and when I wanted to purchase something on sale he refused to sell it to me because I didn’t want to buy any wall books. This guy is a real piece of work.
Last night’s Twitter War brought this post back up. It’s the first time I saw this post, for which I’m thankful. I was always desperately curious to know what retailer you were offering biting criticism of based on their newsletter. Now I know!