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	<description>Kevin Church writes things.</description>
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		<title>By: shukov</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6525</link>
		<dc:creator>shukov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss the days when men were men and women were women and faggots were perverts. America is sick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss the days when men were men and women were women and faggots were perverts. America is sick</p>
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		<title>By: Dayv</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6231</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similarly to Sandy&#039;s comment above, I have no inside info on the &quot;hacker&quot; angle, just a link to pass on.

Regardless of what actually caused this, Amazon&#039;s front line personnel reacted badly when questioned about it and little has been done to remedy or acknowledge this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similarly to Sandy&#8217;s comment above, I have no inside info on the &#8220;hacker&#8221; angle, just a link to pass on.</p>
<p>Regardless of what actually caused this, Amazon&#8217;s front line personnel reacted badly when questioned about it and little has been done to remedy or acknowledge this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6224</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to make clear that by linking to that article I was not endorsing as &quot;the truth&quot; Amazon&#039;s &quot;cataloging error&quot; story; I just thought it was worth adding to the discussion.  It might come out that there is more to this than just some glitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to make clear that by linking to that article I was not endorsing as &#8220;the truth&#8221; Amazon&#8217;s &#8220;cataloging error&#8221; story; I just thought it was worth adding to the discussion.  It might come out that there is more to this than just some glitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Church</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6223</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting bit in that NYT article:&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;At least one author said he had encountered malfunctions in his sales rankings on Amazon as far back as February. Craig Seymour, an associate professor of communications at Northern Illinois University and the author of â€œAll I Could Bare: My Life in the Strip Clubs of Gay Washington, D.C.,â€ a memoir, said his book had disappeared from most searches for several weeks but was restored in late February.

In a blog post late Monday, Mr. Seymour wrote that Amazonâ€™s statement was a start, but not sufficient. â€œIt does not explain why writers, like myself, were told by Amazon reps that our books were being classified as â€˜adult products.â€™ â€

Amazon said in the statement that it planned â€œto implement new measures to make this kind of accident less likely to occur in the future.â€ It did not elaborate on its statement.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting bit in that NYT article:<br />
<blockquote>At least one author said he had encountered malfunctions in his sales rankings on Amazon as far back as February. Craig Seymour, an associate professor of communications at Northern Illinois University and the author of â€œAll I Could Bare: My Life in the Strip Clubs of Gay Washington, D.C.,â€ a memoir, said his book had disappeared from most searches for several weeks but was restored in late February.</p>
<p>In a blog post late Monday, Mr. Seymour wrote that Amazonâ€™s statement was a start, but not sufficient. â€œIt does not explain why writers, like myself, were told by Amazon reps that our books were being classified as â€˜adult products.â€™ â€</p>
<p>Amazon said in the statement that it planned â€œto implement new measures to make this kind of accident less likely to occur in the future.â€ It did not elaborate on its statement.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6222</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/technology/internet/14amazon.html?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is the New York Times article that says this was caused by a cataloging error.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/technology/internet/14amazon.html?hp" rel="nofollow">Here is the New York Times article that says this was caused by a cataloging error.</a></p>
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		<title>By: christopher h</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6221</link>
		<dc:creator>christopher h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supposedly it was due to a search programming error, due to someone &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.seattlepi.com/amazon/archives/166329.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;editing the site from France&lt;/a&gt;. Still doesn&#039;t smell right, but it&#039;s at least slightly plausible-- and forgivable, provided that they correct and relist everything immediately.

As for things that continue to be valid points to critique Amazon about:
-Undercuts local book and comic book shops, as Mike Daisey in that link points out: &quot;It&#039;s just an online Wal-Mart.&quot;

-One of the few high-profile businesses of its kind which has no charitable giving/employee-donation match for non-profits (especially noticeable in progressive-ish Seattle). Definitely fair that as a business, its wholly within its rights to give or not give to whomever it chooses but given that its profits are based almost entirely on the creative productivity of others-- it would be prudent and also socially responsible of them to contribute to ongoing creative development within the arts. (The latter point was cribbed from someone else in a long debate on this subject, so I can&#039;t lay claim to its soundness.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly it was due to a search programming error, due to someone <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/amazon/archives/166329.asp" rel="nofollow">editing the site from France</a>. Still doesn&#8217;t smell right, but it&#8217;s at least slightly plausible&#8211; and forgivable, provided that they correct and relist everything immediately.</p>
<p>As for things that continue to be valid points to critique Amazon about:<br />
-Undercuts local book and comic book shops, as Mike Daisey in that link points out: &#8220;It&#8217;s just an online Wal-Mart.&#8221;</p>
<p>-One of the few high-profile businesses of its kind which has no charitable giving/employee-donation match for non-profits (especially noticeable in progressive-ish Seattle). Definitely fair that as a business, its wholly within its rights to give or not give to whomever it chooses but given that its profits are based almost entirely on the creative productivity of others&#8211; it would be prudent and also socially responsible of them to contribute to ongoing creative development within the arts. (The latter point was cribbed from someone else in a long debate on this subject, so I can&#8217;t lay claim to its soundness.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Algren</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6219</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Algren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not buying it, Dayv. Much more likely that they&#039;re just filtering for books in categories like &quot;gay&quot; (etc) in the category metadata, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2009/04/12/amazon-possibly-using-category-metadata-to-filter-rankings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;someone else suggested&lt;/a&gt; this morning. It&#039;s just an extremely overzealous attempt at baby-proofing the site, and I&#039;d be surprised if Seniorest management knew about it.

It&#039;s worth noting that a lot of the anti-gay books (most of which didn&#039;t get de-ranked) don&#039;t use category metadata like &quot;gay&quot;, instead going the general education/parenting/self-help route. LGBT people aren&#039;t their primary audience, and people looking to fix their kids don&#039;t look in the gay section of the bookstore.

P.S. Randall, girls doing it is okay. It&#039;s dudes going at it that people have a problem with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not buying it, Dayv. Much more likely that they&#8217;re just filtering for books in categories like &#8220;gay&#8221; (etc) in the category metadata, like <a href="http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2009/04/12/amazon-possibly-using-category-metadata-to-filter-rankings/" rel="nofollow">someone else suggested</a> this morning. It&#8217;s just an extremely overzealous attempt at baby-proofing the site, and I&#8217;d be surprised if Seniorest management knew about it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that a lot of the anti-gay books (most of which didn&#8217;t get de-ranked) don&#8217;t use category metadata like &#8220;gay&#8221;, instead going the general education/parenting/self-help route. LGBT people aren&#8217;t their primary audience, and people looking to fix their kids don&#8217;t look in the gay section of the bookstore.</p>
<p>P.S. Randall, girls doing it is okay. It&#8217;s dudes going at it that people have a problem with.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6218</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I agree with Dayv. This really doesn&#039;t sound like Amazon, and based on everything I&#039;ve heard about and from Bezos over the years, it definitely doesn&#039;t seem to fit his politics. Mind you, if it&#039;s for real, I&#039;ve made my last purchase from them, but it just doesn&#039;t ring true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I agree with Dayv. This really doesn&#8217;t sound like Amazon, and based on everything I&#8217;ve heard about and from Bezos over the years, it definitely doesn&#8217;t seem to fit his politics. Mind you, if it&#8217;s for real, I&#8217;ve made my last purchase from them, but it just doesn&#8217;t ring true.</p>
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		<title>By: Dayv</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to join this crusade, but now there are reports that Amazon may actually be something of a victim here:

http://i.gizmodo.com/5210424/hacker-claims-he-shoved-amazon-into-the-closet-using-inappropriate-flag-exploit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to join this crusade, but now there are reports that Amazon may actually be something of a victim here:</p>
<p><a href="http://i.gizmodo.com/5210424/hacker-claims-he-shoved-amazon-into-the-closet-using-inappropriate-flag-exploit" rel="nofollow">http://i.gizmodo.com/5210424/hacker-claims-he-shoved-amazon-into-the-closet-using-inappropriate-flag-exploit</a></p>
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		<title>By: KDBryan</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos/2009/04/12/comment-page-1/#comment-6207</link>
		<dc:creator>KDBryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, this is exactly the kind of searing, frothing angry-white-boy hatred I&#039;ve come to expect from you, Kevin Church. 

In seriousness, thank you for this. It&#039;s a great summation and kudos to you for your promised course of action. I won&#039;t be using Amazon again in the future myself if this insulting BS continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this is exactly the kind of searing, frothing angry-white-boy hatred I&#8217;ve come to expect from you, Kevin Church. </p>
<p>In seriousness, thank you for this. It&#8217;s a great summation and kudos to you for your promised course of action. I won&#8217;t be using Amazon again in the future myself if this insulting BS continues.</p>
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