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	<title>Comments on: Comics Retailers In &#8220;Unable To Stop Being Fanboys&#8221; Shocker!</title>
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		<title>By: Ron Ferraro</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/comics-retailers-in-unable-to-stop-being-fanboys-shocker/2008/08/11/comment-page-3/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Ferraro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I certainly don&#039;t send out newsletters with comic book reviews, and I can&#039;t say that if I did, that I would put any focus on the negative ones.  Still, it is important for comic store owners to have an opinion, because they will be asked their opinion every single day of their lives.  Nobody likes a wishy-washy flip-flopper that spouts BS all day just to make sales.  People WANT to know that you care, regardless of whether they agree with you or not.  For example, anyone who dares ask my opinion on Spider-man these days will know full well of my absolute derision towards that title.  Consequently, I don&#039;t sell alot of Spider-man, and I&#039;m okay with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I certainly don&#8217;t send out newsletters with comic book reviews, and I can&#8217;t say that if I did, that I would put any focus on the negative ones.  Still, it is important for comic store owners to have an opinion, because they will be asked their opinion every single day of their lives.  Nobody likes a wishy-washy flip-flopper that spouts BS all day just to make sales.  People WANT to know that you care, regardless of whether they agree with you or not.  For example, anyone who dares ask my opinion on Spider-man these days will know full well of my absolute derision towards that title.  Consequently, I don&#8217;t sell alot of Spider-man, and I&#8217;m okay with that.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Peace</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/comics-retailers-in-unable-to-stop-being-fanboys-shocker/2008/08/11/comment-page-3/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of a &quot;damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t&quot; scenario.

On one hand, if the newsletter were full of nothing but ringing praise you would feel alienated by the lack of sincerity.  We&#039;re all smart enough to know when we&#039;re being sold something and when we&#039;re been fed a sales pitch.  If the newsletter were noting but an ad... an e-mail flyer, essentially... you would feel that you were pandered to and treated like a passive consumer, merely a target for a hucksterish sales pitch.

On the other hand, absolute conviction doesn&#039;t work in any sales scenario, either.  While it&#039;s technically not lying to only highlight your favorite comics, it&#039;s sort of dishonesty by omission.  You&#039;re purposely creating the false illusion that your product, by and large, is better than what it really is.  However, this is an absolute necessity to good business.  Yes, these comic book retailers are businessmen and yes, they should be held to that specific standard.  But on the other hand, all businessmen are weasels by their very nature so what can you do?

If they go one way, they&#039;re phonies, if you go the other way, they&#039;re shit salesman whose passion overrides their desire to make money.

The only moral of this story is that capitalism and genuineness are polar opposites and mutually exclusive.  If you want to be a good salesman, you have to slightly misrepresent your product (if not flat-out lie, then at least go out of your way to disproportionately emphasize the positive) and if you want to keep it real, you have to suck as a salesman.  

There&#039;s no way this guy could satisfy both requirements and I bet dollars to doorknobs everybody would be here bitching and moaning if their inbox were full of cheesy money-grab-style solicitations.  It&#039;s popular for internet snark mavens to sneer about having the industry we deserve, but if the comic book industry were truly popular, they&#039;d be whining about the level of falseness the snake-oil peddlers were shilling.  Comics pundits have a real love-hate thing going on with the almighty dollar.  It&#039;s always the guys who claim to be &quot;art over commerce&quot; that beg for money the hardest or complain the most about lack of profits.

I am ambivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of a &#8220;damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t&#8221; scenario.</p>
<p>On one hand, if the newsletter were full of nothing but ringing praise you would feel alienated by the lack of sincerity.  We&#8217;re all smart enough to know when we&#8217;re being sold something and when we&#8217;re been fed a sales pitch.  If the newsletter were noting but an ad&#8230; an e-mail flyer, essentially&#8230; you would feel that you were pandered to and treated like a passive consumer, merely a target for a hucksterish sales pitch.</p>
<p>On the other hand, absolute conviction doesn&#8217;t work in any sales scenario, either.  While it&#8217;s technically not lying to only highlight your favorite comics, it&#8217;s sort of dishonesty by omission.  You&#8217;re purposely creating the false illusion that your product, by and large, is better than what it really is.  However, this is an absolute necessity to good business.  Yes, these comic book retailers are businessmen and yes, they should be held to that specific standard.  But on the other hand, all businessmen are weasels by their very nature so what can you do?</p>
<p>If they go one way, they&#8217;re phonies, if you go the other way, they&#8217;re shit salesman whose passion overrides their desire to make money.</p>
<p>The only moral of this story is that capitalism and genuineness are polar opposites and mutually exclusive.  If you want to be a good salesman, you have to slightly misrepresent your product (if not flat-out lie, then at least go out of your way to disproportionately emphasize the positive) and if you want to keep it real, you have to suck as a salesman.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way this guy could satisfy both requirements and I bet dollars to doorknobs everybody would be here bitching and moaning if their inbox were full of cheesy money-grab-style solicitations.  It&#8217;s popular for internet snark mavens to sneer about having the industry we deserve, but if the comic book industry were truly popular, they&#8217;d be whining about the level of falseness the snake-oil peddlers were shilling.  Comics pundits have a real love-hate thing going on with the almighty dollar.  It&#8217;s always the guys who claim to be &#8220;art over commerce&#8221; that beg for money the hardest or complain the most about lack of profits.</p>
<p>I am ambivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: McSheffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>McSheffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just reread the review since I didn&#039;t get Astonishing until a few hours ago and I think it&#039;s flat out wrong.  Now that I&#039;m used to Bianchi&#039;s odd costume designs sense and faux cinematic style that wasn&#039;t as problematic.  The dialogue and story?  Pure Ellis.  I can see disliking the book if you&#039;re a Whedon Apologist or Zombie but to any fan of the sharp, smart writing Ellis could probably even do in his sleep it&#039;s pure espaist comics gold.  That makes it even more baffling to me that a store owner would try to run off potential customers because the product is really quite good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just reread the review since I didn&#8217;t get Astonishing until a few hours ago and I think it&#8217;s flat out wrong.  Now that I&#8217;m used to Bianchi&#8217;s odd costume designs sense and faux cinematic style that wasn&#8217;t as problematic.  The dialogue and story?  Pure Ellis.  I can see disliking the book if you&#8217;re a Whedon Apologist or Zombie but to any fan of the sharp, smart writing Ellis could probably even do in his sleep it&#8217;s pure espaist comics gold.  That makes it even more baffling to me that a store owner would try to run off potential customers because the product is really quite good.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like commenter tom, wayyyyyy up there, sometimes I buy some pretty silly stuff, like &#039;80s and &#039;90s comics that are pure stupid escapism.  I know they&#039;re not very good, but they&#039;re fun, and if the guy behind the cash register so much as started to curl his lip at what I was buying (let alone insulted James Kolchaka&#039;s art or said &quot;I wouldn&#039;t buy those&quot;), I&#039;d never go back to that store again.

Of course, I&#039;m always glad to hear an informed, honest assessment of a product, &lt;b&gt;when I ask for it&lt;/b&gt;.  Guy at the stereo store tells me that the pricier stereo isn&#039;t any better than a cheaper model?  That&#039;s cool. Guy at the comic store gives his honest but diplomatic opinion, something like, &quot;Based on what you get, I don&#039;t think you&#039;d enjoy New Avengers&quot;?  Also cool.  Again, I&#039;m very glad to be told that something I&#039;m considering buying may not be all that great, if I ask about it&lt;/b&gt;.

An unsolicited condemnation of a product is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; good business practice, no matter how many people try to twist it into being the equivalent of &quot;the honest shopkeeper.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like commenter tom, wayyyyyy up there, sometimes I buy some pretty silly stuff, like &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s comics that are pure stupid escapism.  I know they&#8217;re not very good, but they&#8217;re fun, and if the guy behind the cash register so much as started to curl his lip at what I was buying (let alone insulted James Kolchaka&#8217;s art or said &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t buy those&#8221;), I&#8217;d never go back to that store again.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m always glad to hear an informed, honest assessment of a product, <b>when I ask for it</b>.  Guy at the stereo store tells me that the pricier stereo isn&#8217;t any better than a cheaper model?  That&#8217;s cool. Guy at the comic store gives his honest but diplomatic opinion, something like, &#8220;Based on what you get, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d enjoy New Avengers&#8221;?  Also cool.  Again, I&#8217;m very glad to be told that something I&#8217;m considering buying may not be all that great, if I ask about it.</p>
<p>An unsolicited condemnation of a product is <b>not</b> good business practice, no matter how many people try to twist it into being the equivalent of &#8220;the honest shopkeeper.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude...Yanni??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude&#8230;Yanni??</p>
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		<title>By: JET</title>
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		<dc:creator>JET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle: I&#039;ve been to several of those record stores. Maybe it&#039;s because (part of) my musical tastes lean towards Prog, but I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve heard &quot;We don&#039;t carry that kind of crap&quot; at record stores.

That said, I like someone who&#039;s honest about ehat they like and don&#039;t like. It makes them feel less like shills and more like people aho are genuinely interested n the subject. That said, the problem with the review above is really only one thing; the phrase &quot;not buy&quot;. &quot;Not for me&quot; would be better, nicer and smarter. 

That said, I&#039;m still shocked by how many post-adolescent comics fans still buy stuff like X-Men, so maybe I can sympathize with the review just a tad too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle: I&#8217;ve been to several of those record stores. Maybe it&#8217;s because (part of) my musical tastes lean towards Prog, but I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve heard &#8220;We don&#8217;t carry that kind of crap&#8221; at record stores.</p>
<p>That said, I like someone who&#8217;s honest about ehat they like and don&#8217;t like. It makes them feel less like shills and more like people aho are genuinely interested n the subject. That said, the problem with the review above is really only one thing; the phrase &#8220;not buy&#8221;. &#8220;Not for me&#8221; would be better, nicer and smarter. </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m still shocked by how many post-adolescent comics fans still buy stuff like X-Men, so maybe I can sympathize with the review just a tad too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine walking into a record store and asking for the new Amy Winehouse record. The store owner replies, &quot;I don&#039;t like Amy Winehouse, so I didn&#039;t stock any.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine walking into a record store and asking for the new Amy Winehouse record. The store owner replies, &#8220;I don&#8217;t like Amy Winehouse, so I didn&#8217;t stock any.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chris w.</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris w.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My local shop owner will openly say that he hates Superman, for example. But he doesn&#039;t say that in front of customers he&#039;s not already friendly with and he has NEVER criticized the buying habits of his customers. 

I can&#039;t think of anything dumber that a shop owner telling people that their taste sucks or that the books they CHOSE to spend their money on are lousy. I&#039;ve had some clerks go through my stack and make comments: crap, crap, great, sucks, awesome, killer, junk, lame, etc. etc.. Suicidal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My local shop owner will openly say that he hates Superman, for example. But he doesn&#8217;t say that in front of customers he&#8217;s not already friendly with and he has NEVER criticized the buying habits of his customers. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of anything dumber that a shop owner telling people that their taste sucks or that the books they CHOSE to spend their money on are lousy. I&#8217;ve had some clerks go through my stack and make comments: crap, crap, great, sucks, awesome, killer, junk, lame, etc. etc.. Suicidal.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dimitris has forced me to take a good, long, hard look at how I&#039;ve been spending my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris has forced me to take a good, long, hard look at how I&#8217;ve been spending my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dimitris, folks! Proving once again that &quot;projection&quot; isn&#039;t just something that happens in movie theaters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimitris, folks! Proving once again that &#8220;projection&#8221; isn&#8217;t just something that happens in movie theaters!</p>
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