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	<title>Comments on: Scans_Daily is dead.  Fuck &#8216;em.</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Church</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5412</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I deleted the comment before this one because it was loaded with the typical &quot;beards and cheetos&quot; crap see being used too often and I was going to just say &quot;Hey, let&#039;s focus on the issues of entitlement and copyright violation that are at the heart of it,&quot; but instead I think I&#039;m going to shut down comments on this post.  At this point, things can only get nastier and there&#039;s plenty of other sites discussing it.  Thanks to everyone who was civil; I appreciate the thoughtful discussions and arguments a lot of you put forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deleted the comment before this one because it was loaded with the typical &#8220;beards and cheetos&#8221; crap see being used too often and I was going to just say &#8220;Hey, let&#8217;s focus on the issues of entitlement and copyright violation that are at the heart of it,&#8221; but instead I think I&#8217;m going to shut down comments on this post.  At this point, things can only get nastier and there&#8217;s plenty of other sites discussing it.  Thanks to everyone who was civil; I appreciate the thoughtful discussions and arguments a lot of you put forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Sotak</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5408</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Sotak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin
Isn&#039;t it possible for those people who were doing themed series to continue doing so, on livejournal and otherwise? I think it is, and I think they should. I think they will be become better for not having to associate with the toxic fanboyishness that characterized scans_daily&#039;s insular community, and I think followers of such series will be better off, too. I know I liked it a lot more when I discovered the wider community of comics blogs and websites beyond livejournal, and could find amusement and information without having to read the thoughts of a bunch of entitled fans who were just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin<br />
Isn&#8217;t it possible for those people who were doing themed series to continue doing so, on livejournal and otherwise? I think it is, and I think they should. I think they will be become better for not having to associate with the toxic fanboyishness that characterized scans_daily&#8217;s insular community, and I think followers of such series will be better off, too. I know I liked it a lot more when I discovered the wider community of comics blogs and websites beyond livejournal, and could find amusement and information without having to read the thoughts of a bunch of entitled fans who were just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamee</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5404</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;2) I shared material that I had created versus posting other peopleâ€™s works.&quot;

But you still participated in the community. If the community itself is rotten then isn&#039;t adding to it wrong also, even if it is your original stuff?

I don&#039;t mean to sound bitchy or nitpicky anything. I think that you are an awesome blogger and I&#039;ve always found you to be an intelligent person too. I guess I&#039;m just a little surprised at the sheer amount of internet vitriol this whole situation has stirred up, both towards the Scans_Daily people and Mr. David. I&#039;ve always known that the online comic community can turn on people at the drop of a hat, but people are acting like the Scans_Daily people or Mr. David just ran over their dog, depending on what side they are. 

It&#039;s always kind of sad to me when stuff like this happens and we all start throwing around insults instead of talking about how awesome Batman is, like we should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2) I shared material that I had created versus posting other peopleâ€™s works.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you still participated in the community. If the community itself is rotten then isn&#8217;t adding to it wrong also, even if it is your original stuff?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to sound bitchy or nitpicky anything. I think that you are an awesome blogger and I&#8217;ve always found you to be an intelligent person too. I guess I&#8217;m just a little surprised at the sheer amount of internet vitriol this whole situation has stirred up, both towards the Scans_Daily people and Mr. David. I&#8217;ve always known that the online comic community can turn on people at the drop of a hat, but people are acting like the Scans_Daily people or Mr. David just ran over their dog, depending on what side they are. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always kind of sad to me when stuff like this happens and we all start throwing around insults instead of talking about how awesome Batman is, like we should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy W.</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5403</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Richard Arnold. He&#039;s still sore at Peter David over all that Star Trek nonsense, and framed him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Richard Arnold. He&#8217;s still sore at Peter David over all that Star Trek nonsense, and framed him.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Birdie</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5402</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Birdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Peter David doesnâ€™t want to be insulted he shouldnâ€™t have tattled to Marvelâ€¦. What astonishs me is that he thinks its worthwhile to do this; does he think heâ€™ll get a bigger royalty check next month or soemthing, or is he just miffed people are criticising his comics, or what?&quot;

Now what is this insanity?  &quot;If that lady didn&#039;t want a rock tossed in her window, she shouldn&#039;t have called the cops on those drug dealers.&quot;

Just because some thieving little band of miscreants got busted because of &quot;tattlers&quot; (and isn&#039;t that just a fucking adorable little turn of the phrase) doesn&#039;t mean that whatever abuse they might be subjected to is fair game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Peter David doesnâ€™t want to be insulted he shouldnâ€™t have tattled to Marvelâ€¦. What astonishs me is that he thinks its worthwhile to do this; does he think heâ€™ll get a bigger royalty check next month or soemthing, or is he just miffed people are criticising his comics, or what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now what is this insanity?  &#8220;If that lady didn&#8217;t want a rock tossed in her window, she shouldn&#8217;t have called the cops on those drug dealers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just because some thieving little band of miscreants got busted because of &#8220;tattlers&#8221; (and isn&#8217;t that just a fucking adorable little turn of the phrase) doesn&#8217;t mean that whatever abuse they might be subjected to is fair game.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Church</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5400</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I understand that your feelings on the place may have changed since you left it, but to make blanket statements about an entire community of people for doing what YOU YOURSELF used to do and to not express even the least bit of humility or sense of irony about it? Thatâ€™s not very fair.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; 1) The community changed greatly in a very short amount of time, as multiple people have pointed out.   
2) I &lt;em&gt;shared material that I had created versus posting other people&#039;s works&lt;/em&gt;.  
3) Humility.  Ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I understand that your feelings on the place may have changed since you left it, but to make blanket statements about an entire community of people for doing what YOU YOURSELF used to do and to not express even the least bit of humility or sense of irony about it? Thatâ€™s not very fair.</p></blockquote>
<p> 1) The community changed greatly in a very short amount of time, as multiple people have pointed out.<br />
2) I <em>shared material that I had created versus posting other people&#8217;s works</em>.<br />
3) Humility.  Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamee</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5399</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, something just occured to me. Kevin, you say that you tried to be active in the Scans_Daily community but left because of the people there. So you didn&#039;t leave because you felt that the community was illegal and immoral and was hurting the industry? But now you&#039;re condemning all the other Scans_Daily users for doing what you used to do? That seriously puts your post in a whole new light for me. You are being WAY too judgemental. I understand that your feelings on the place may have changed since you left it, but to make blanket statements about an entire community of people for doing what YOU YOURSELF used to do and to not express even the least bit of humility or sense of irony about it? That&#039;s not very fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, something just occured to me. Kevin, you say that you tried to be active in the Scans_Daily community but left because of the people there. So you didn&#8217;t leave because you felt that the community was illegal and immoral and was hurting the industry? But now you&#8217;re condemning all the other Scans_Daily users for doing what you used to do? That seriously puts your post in a whole new light for me. You are being WAY too judgemental. I understand that your feelings on the place may have changed since you left it, but to make blanket statements about an entire community of people for doing what YOU YOURSELF used to do and to not express even the least bit of humility or sense of irony about it? That&#8217;s not very fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Church</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5397</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;So basically you hated it because some people were assholes to you and now you are happily pissing on the ashes. Thatâ€™s cool, buddy. Let me echo above that yelling at other people to be mature and then being a dick yourself is pointless, and counter-productive.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Then where does commenting about my statements fall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So basically you hated it because some people were assholes to you and now you are happily pissing on the ashes. Thatâ€™s cool, buddy. Let me echo above that yelling at other people to be mature and then being a dick yourself is pointless, and counter-productive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then where does commenting about my statements fall?</p>
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		<title>By: GL</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5393</link>
		<dc:creator>GL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes, I tried to be an active part of Scans_Daily for a while, because a few people in that community seemed to genuinely love comic books old and new and wanted to share that enthusiasm. I stopped when people told me I wrote the characters of my own webcomic incorrectly.&lt;/i&gt;

So basically you hated it because some people were assholes to you and now you are happily pissing on the ashes. That&#039;s cool, buddy. Let me echo above that yelling at other people to be mature and then being a dick yourself is pointless, and counter-productive. 

As an over-all point, all of comic book fandom is bitchy and retarded. Scans didn&#039;t have some special sticking point in that realm, reading the forums at CBR makes me lose my will to live, except there the creators themselves also stop by to be dicks. [And I hang out on fark for fuck&#039;s sake.]

As for the immaturity screaming back and forth, I am almost 30 years old and I read comic books, I thought that was kind of a given that I&#039;m immature. I&#039;ll be mature when I&#039;m dead, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, I tried to be an active part of Scans_Daily for a while, because a few people in that community seemed to genuinely love comic books old and new and wanted to share that enthusiasm. I stopped when people told me I wrote the characters of my own webcomic incorrectly.</i></p>
<p>So basically you hated it because some people were assholes to you and now you are happily pissing on the ashes. That&#8217;s cool, buddy. Let me echo above that yelling at other people to be mature and then being a dick yourself is pointless, and counter-productive. </p>
<p>As an over-all point, all of comic book fandom is bitchy and retarded. Scans didn&#8217;t have some special sticking point in that realm, reading the forums at CBR makes me lose my will to live, except there the creators themselves also stop by to be dicks. [And I hang out on fark for fuck's sake.]</p>
<p>As for the immaturity screaming back and forth, I am almost 30 years old and I read comic books, I thought that was kind of a given that I&#8217;m immature. I&#8217;ll be mature when I&#8217;m dead, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Mata</title>
		<link>http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/blog/scans_daily-is-dead-fuck-em/2009/02/28/comment-page-2/#comment-5392</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Mata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scans_Daily introduced me to a lot of review sites, fans, and comics I didn&#039;t know existed (Archie and Marvel are what make it to newsstands around here). The themed weeks were like friends showing each other the things they liked. Everything posted had some following. It was &quot;never just you.&quot; 

My closest comic shop is over 20 miles away, and the staff is quite unhelpful. So I have a pull list at the next closest comic shop, 35 miles away. I know things are cheaper on the internet like Heavy Ink, but I like talking to people who enjoy comics. I&#039;m glad there&#039;s still The ISB to read about new releases, Bully Says for very opinionated (but much loved) older comics, Comics Worth Reading for trade recommendations, and they have their followings, but they&#039;re led by single voices and so are different animals.

I liked the community, and I&#039;m sad that it&#039;s been shuffled about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scans_Daily introduced me to a lot of review sites, fans, and comics I didn&#8217;t know existed (Archie and Marvel are what make it to newsstands around here). The themed weeks were like friends showing each other the things they liked. Everything posted had some following. It was &#8220;never just you.&#8221; </p>
<p>My closest comic shop is over 20 miles away, and the staff is quite unhelpful. So I have a pull list at the next closest comic shop, 35 miles away. I know things are cheaper on the internet like Heavy Ink, but I like talking to people who enjoy comics. I&#8217;m glad there&#8217;s still The ISB to read about new releases, Bully Says for very opinionated (but much loved) older comics, Comics Worth Reading for trade recommendations, and they have their followings, but they&#8217;re led by single voices and so are different animals.</p>
<p>I liked the community, and I&#8217;m sad that it&#8217;s been shuffled about.</p>
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